Recently, the "Beijing
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Clubs selling frisbees" sparked a hot debate, once stayed in the top 20 microblogging hot search. "Know the ball emperor" app, the comments on this matter also quickly became hot.
One is a fast breaking niche sport Frisbee, and the other is the world's No. 1 sport soccer, which is loved and hated by the people of China, and their "encounters" on the field are not peaceful and quiet.
"Frisbee invasion of the soccer field" topic a few months ago with the Frisbee "broken circle" appeared, the soccer field in the end should not play Frisbee has become the core of the storm.
There are differences between the two sports in terms of form, circle interest, and social attributes, which makes this "venue battle" even more intriguing.
Sold more than a dozen orders of
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Frisbee storms onto the hot seat
Occasionally, videos of scrimmages and altercations are circulated online. On social media platforms, "soccer" and "Frisbee" are at war. One side thinks the soccer ball stinks, while the other sneers that the Frisbee is a "dating device".
Two circles, arguing with each other for many months.
Until recently.
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One of the league's oldest and most recognizable soccer clubs - Beijing
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The "dark war" was brought to a climax.
"Beijing
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Clubs selling Frisbees" From the 17th once rushed to the top of the microblogging hot search, to the morning of the 18th still stayed in the 17th place of the hot search list.
On the app platform "Zhiqiu Di", where soccer fans gather, about
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Reviews of Frisbee for sale are equally hot, with around 200 comments on each relevant piece of information.
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The $88 price tag for a Frisbee is "consumer" branding, and some are angry that big-name soccer clubs have lost their backbone in the face of the hot Frisbee.
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Tmall flagship store customer service responded to the reporter that the product premium is mainly because the frisbee for professional athletic frisbee, net weight 175g, can be used for competition, training, recreation and entertainment, frisbee center printed with the
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The green logo, made of pp material.
There was no answer as to why the soccer club wanted to launch a Frisbee product.
The Beijing Youth Daily reporter found that the Frisbee product did not sell well a few days after it went online, with only 12 orders sold.
Frisbee enthusiasts tease, "Even the
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All have thrown in the towel," and even said, "Without frisbees, the soccer stadium might not have survived a long time ago."
Soccer fans also point the finger at
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Claims
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The club is "destroying the game of soccer by consuming fan sentiment."
Windfall, a segment of "
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A video of a "marketing staff member" disliking soccer fans was reposted in various soccer and frisbee groups. It was later confirmed that this person was not
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Club employee, just a staff member of the seller.
But even so.
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The club, and the soccer world as a whole, is still suffering from a lot of public pressure.
The soccer field was "occupied" and they called 12345 to complain.
Soccer fan Zhang Lin actually experienced the "Frisbee invasion of the soccer field" from the end of June.
As usual, he took his son to Chaoyang Park to play, and when he saw a dozen or so people warming up in the five-a-side soccer field on the east side of the park, he told his son that it was a soccer game.
But then Zhang Lin realized that there were many women in the warm-up activities, wearing clothing that was not traditionally associated with soccer. He realized that this was what the Internet called "Frisbee sports".
Now, Zhang Lin more and more feel "a wave of Frisbee coming" panic. Last week, his son's training field was divided into three areas, the southernmost side of the two Frisbee Bureau, the center is a soccer bureau, the children in the north side and the secondary field training.
After the end of training, Zhang Lin wanted to accompany his son to play in the secondary field for a while, the results did not kick two feet, the field appeared again two sets of people playing Frisbee.
"This has never happened before, and now there are Frisbee players coming as soon as training is over." Zhang Lin looked around, except for the half-field where there were two teams of about 20 people playing soccer, the rest of the field was full of Frisbees.
After returning home, Zhang Lin talked about this phenomenon with his friends, and many of them "complained": now the soccer field is basically occupied by the Frisbee.
"In the past, when we played soccer, we all pulled together in a group, and when we had enough people, we went looking for a field. Back then it wasn't hard to find a venue, it was hard to get people together. Now it's a case of having all the people and the venues are rented out."
Zhang Lin heard that a ball player even called 12345 to complain because of a fight over the use of a soccer field with people playing Frisbee.
In their opinion, a soccer field should be for playing soccer and not Frisbee, just as a basketball court is not for square dancing.
Frisbee increases bookings Some stadiums take care of soccer
Is the Frisbee encroaching on the soccer field?
Beijing Youth Daily reporter visited a number of soccer venues in Beijing, and learned that the situation is: due to the addition of Frisbee, the venue booking is basically full, but the organized soccer training, matches have not been affected, and only the undertaking of casual visitors is somewhat difficult.
At the same time, some venues have put in place management practices to keep up with the demand for soccer.
Where to visit: Sidekick Park Stadium
Partitions between Frisbee soccer to avoid conflict
Side Park Stadium is a place with more Frisbee enthusiasts, Beijing Youth Daily reporter asked the staff as a citizen and learned that there are only empty fields on Mondays and Sundays from 8 p.m. to 10 p.m., and all other times are full.
The staff explained that before the rise of Frisbee, they did have a certain percentage of empty fields, but not many. Nowadays, not only do they have Frisbee bookings, but people who play rugby come in as well, "but overall, it's still more of a soccer percentage."
As to whether frisbee, rugby and soccer will have disputes over the field, the staff member said, "It mainly depends on the management, and there are partitions between the various fields, so basically there will be no conflicts."
Where to visit: Changying Sports Park
First, we'll ensure soccer training, and then we'll rent out the field when it's available.
The staff of the Changying Sports Park also said that the "venue dispute" can be well resolved in the management process. Before setting the site, they will inform each other next to the site is to play other programs, if mutual understanding and acceptance, will be rented.
The staff said, Changying Sports Park in addition to mainly used to undertake soccer youth training, but also undertake the soccer league of foreign friends in Beijing, the rest of the empty field will be rented to the public.
In addition, Changying Sports Park also has an artificial grass rugby field, Frisbee enthusiasts are usually arranged in the rugby field, "if the rugby field arrangement is not open, the soccer field and there is an empty field, only then it will be arranged in the soccer field, so there is actually no contradiction between the Frisbee and soccer."
The staff admitted that after the epidemic, to consult the field of people do a lot, they also put off a lot of reservations. Previously, the field place will also organize some individual soccer enthusiasts to play "wild ball", and now basically very little, "the main 'wild ball' is not good organization, too many pigeonholes."
Visit Location: Olympic Sports Center Soccer Stadium
Price hikes at venues don't stem from too many frisbees
Previously, rumors among soccer players, because the Frisbee Bureau a large number of into the soccer field, resulting in some of the soccer field prices. However, during the visit, the reporter did not find such a phenomenon.
Olympic Sports Center soccer stadium is the only soccer stadium visited by the reporter to increase prices, but the staff said that the price increase is due to the replacement of new turf and facilities, is not the result of the conflict between supply and demand.
According to the staff of the Olympic Sports Center soccer stadium, in addition to providing long-term venues for youth training clubs, soccer and Frisbee field bookings are basically flat, with both sides on a first-come, first-served basis.
Where to visit: Osun North Park soccer field
Cheaper to book for soccer members than frisbee casuals
In contrast, the Olsen North Park soccer stadium regulates Frisbee and soccer bookings with price.
Staff said that booking for soccer fans would be cheaper and there is a long-term membership option, whereas the Frisbee Board does not have a membership price for the time being.
The staff member also realized that because of the frisbee boom, field bookings have really boomed, but they still give priority to members, which are soccer fans.
In the North Park of the Ossen, the Beijing Youth Daily reporter also met a few middle school students who came to play soccer. They said that since the Frisbee fire, it has become difficult to rent a field, although the price has not changed, but it is not easy to rent a field at the right time. But they are not averse to the sport of Frisbee itself.
Where to visit: Shilihe Soccer Stadium and Chaoyang Park
First-come, first-served basis
In addition to the above several stadiums with certain management methods, the reporter visited the Shilihe soccer stadium and Chaoyang Park soccer stadium said that they would not distinguish between renting a venue to play soccer or Frisbee, are in accordance with the principle of first-come-first-served.
A staff member said, before the frisbee did not rise, the venue can basically be rented out, but after the outbreak of the venue to play frisbee is indeed a lot more, but relatively speaking, playing soccer is still more.
Soccer Circle: The problem with soccer is that too few people play it
"I don't have a problem with the sport of frisbee per se, but speaking as a soccer practitioner, it makes me uncomfortable to see a soccer stadium full of frisbee players, but what can be done about it? China
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Isn't the problem with the ball that there are too few soccer fields to play soccer on?"
A professional soccer people told the Beijing Youth Daily reporter, in foreign countries to play soccer is one of the most popular sports, but in China has been to play "wild ball" the majority, the main reason is to find a fixed organization. This time in the face of organized and popular participation in the Frisbee Bureau, natural competition.
Soccer insiders have reacted relatively calmly to the soccer vs. frisbee field battle.
Back in June, current Shandong
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Players, former national goalkeeper Wang Dalei has interacted with fans online to express their own views: who pays who use, as for what to use, is the renting party's own decision, "no one kicks the soccer field, people spend money to rent venues, want to play what to play what to play."
There are also soccer insiders said that they both play soccer, also play Frisbee, have to compare the two, leaving aside their own careers, Frisbee is indeed more fun.
"Frisbee has a low starting point, everyone is at the same level, and you can form a game with coworkers and friends, men and women alike. Playing soccer, it's very confrontational, and sometimes you even fight over a ball to pass or not to pass."
"Should think about why soccer clubs can not even pay wages, while Frisbee clubs are hot?" He believes that the Frisbee into the soccer field is actually a wake-up call to the soccer people, here in addition to the old problem of insufficient number of mass sports infrastructure in China, it is "China's soccer culture lost to the fashion sports culture".
Frisbee circles: overlapping with soccer fields because there's too little space for sports in the city.
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"We actually can't rent a venue right now." Frisbee coach Chen Zhifu of the Partners Sports Club said there is no such thing as "Frisbee encroaching on soccer fields" because even in Europe and the United States, where Frisbee originated, Frisbee doesn't have its own exclusive venues.
Chen Zhifu feels that this has to do with the low threshold and easy accessibility of a sport like Frisbee.
Abroad, Frisbee can be played on open grassy areas in parks, but if you want to play professionally, in order to avoid injuries, you need to use flatter green fields, such as soccer fields, rugby fields, baseball fields, and field hockey fields.
But in China's current urban fitness venues, rugby, baseball and field hockey fields are almost non-existent, and the only suitable ones left are soccer fields.
From the general environment, due to the impact of the epidemic some time ago, soccer training institutions have been suspended, some organized soccer folk clubs can not host games, soccer stadiums are empty, soccer players to use the field to play "wild", it is at this time, the rise of Frisbee, so Frisbee and soccer players have produced a number of venues to use the overlap between The overlap between Frisbee and casual soccer players.
Nowadays, the training of soccer training institutions and the matches of soccer clubs have been relaunched, and they all have long-term and stable co-operation with the stadium side and are given priority in the use of the venues, so the room for frisbee and casual soccer players to use the stadiums has been further compressed.
As opposed to soccer casuals, Frisbee is an organized activity, and Frisbee clubs can reach some slightly longer-term cooperation agreements with soccer venues according to their own circumstances, so the situation of soccer casuals not being able to find kicking venues is ultimately formed.
"In fact, the initial stage, Frisbee is also all casuals, play more people, the volume up, before operating as a club. To put it bluntly, it still depends on the base of choosing this sport. With a sufficient population base of the sport, the choice of venues is naturally much more convenient." Chen Zhifu said.
