Recently, the topic of "Beijing Guoan Club selling Frisbees" made waves on the microblogging hot search, once occupying the top 20. The comments under this topic on the "Knowing Footballer" app also quickly became the center of attention.
Seemingly unrelated Frisbee and soccer, but unexpectedly intertwined in the stadium, triggering a controversy about the right to use the field. This collision of sports styles has long been quietly emerging with the popularity of Frisbee a few months ago, and the question of whether soccer stadiums should accommodate Frisbee has become the focus of much public debate.
The two sports in the form, fun circle, social attributes have their own characteristics, making this "venue battle" has become more compelling.
Beijing Guoan club selling Frisbee, only sold a dozen single, but accidentally rushed to the hot search. Online videos of the debate between "soccer" and "Frisbee" have been circulating from time to time, and the two factions have been arguing on social media platforms.
This "dark war" until the Beijing Guoan club intervention, will be the controversy to the climax.
Beijing Guoan club sold frisbee once occupied the top of the microblogging hot search, and "understand the ball emperor" app about Guoan selling frisbee comments are also hot, each message has triggered about 200 comments.
For Guoan Frisbee 88 yuan price, some people questioned this is "consumer" brand, while others accused the big-name soccer club in the face of the popular Frisbee lost backbone.
Guoan Tmall flagship store customer service said, the frisbee for professional athletic frisbee, net weight 175g, suitable for competition, training and recreation, the frisbee is printed with the green logo of Guoan, made of pp material.
As for why the Frisbee product was launched, customer service did not give a clear answer.
Beijing Youth Daily reporter found that the frisbee product online, sales are not ideal, only 12 single sold.
Frisbee enthusiasts jokingly said, "Even the national security have 'defected'", and there are even comments that "without the Frisbee, the soccer stadium may have long been 'unsustainable' ".
Soccer fans accused the club of "destroying the game by consuming fan sentiment".
In the public opinion, a so-called "Guoan marketing department staff" angry dislike of soccer fans video in various soccer and frisbee groups were forwarded. It was confirmed that this person was not an employee of Guoan Club, but only a staff member of the seller.
Nevertheless, the Guoan club, and even the entire soccer circle, has been subjected to enormous public pressure.
Frisbee sports in the soccer field "invasion", so that soccer fans Zhang Lin deep panic. He took his son to Chaoyang Park to play football, found that the original soccer field was divided into three areas, the south side of the two Frisbee Bureau, the middle is a soccer bureau, the north side and the secondary field is the children's training ground.
Zhang Lin said that in the past, when playing soccer, it was easy to find a venue and hard to get people together. And now, when the people are together, the venues are rented out.
Zhang Lin heard that a ball player even complained to 12345 once because of a fight with a frisbee player over the use of a soccer field.
In their opinion, a soccer field should be used to play soccer, just as a basketball court is not for square dancing.
Frisbee sports have increased field booking rates, but have not impacted organized soccer practices and games.
Beijing Youth Daily reporter visited a number of soccer venues in Beijing, and learned that the situation is: due to the addition of Frisbee, the venue booking is basically full, but the organized soccer training, matches have not been affected, and only the undertaking of casual visitors is somewhat difficult.
Some venues have also put in place management practices to keep up with the demand for soccer.
Where to visit: Sidekick Park Stadium
Partitions between frisbee soccer to avoid conflicts
The Sidekick Park Stadium is a place where there are more Frisbee enthusiasts. The Beijing Youth Daily reporter asked the staff as a member of the public and learned that there are currently only empty fields on Mondays and Sundays from 8:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m., and all other times are full.
Staff explained that before the rise of Frisbee, they did have a certain amount of empty fields, but not many.
As to whether frisbee, rugby and soccer will have disputes over the field, the staff member said, "It mainly depends on the management, and there are partitions between the various fields, so basically there will be no conflicts."
Where to visit: Changying Sports Park
Ensure soccer training first, then rent out when there's a space available
The staff of Changying Sports Park also said that the "venue dispute" can be well resolved in the management process.
Before booking a venue, they will inform each other that the venue next to them is for playing other sports, and will only rent it out if they can understand and accept each other.
The staff said, Changying Sports Park in addition to mainly used to undertake soccer youth training, but also undertake the soccer league of foreign friends in Beijing, the rest of the empty field will be rented to the public.
There is also a rugby field with artificial grass at the Changying Sports Park, where Frisbee enthusiasts are usually placed.
The staff member admitted that after the outbreak, there were indeed a lot of people who came to inquire about booking the venue, and they had put off a lot of bookings.
Visit Location: Olympic Sports Center Soccer Stadium
Price hikes at venues don't stem from too many frisbees
Previously, there were rumors among soccer players that the price of some soccer fields had risen because of the large number of Frisbee Boards entering soccer fields.
However, during the visit, the reporter did not find such a phenomenon.
Olympic Sports Center soccer stadium is the only soccer stadium visited by the reporter to increase prices, but the staff said that the price increase is due to the replacement of new turf and facilities, is not the result of the conflict between supply and demand.
According to the staff of the Olympic Sports Center soccer stadium, in addition to providing long-term venues for youth training clubs, soccer and Frisbee field bookings are basically flat, with both sides on a first-come, first-served basis.
Where to visit: Osun North Park soccer field
Cheaper to book for soccer members than frisbee casuals
In contrast, the Olsen North Park soccer stadium regulates Frisbee and soccer bookings with price.
Staff said that booking for soccer fans would be cheaper and there are long-term membership options, while Frisbee Bureau does not have a membership price for now.
The staff member also realized that because of the frisbee boom, field bookings have really boomed, but they still give priority to members, which are soccer fans.
In the North Park of the Ossen, the Beijing Youth Daily reporter also met a few middle school students who came to play soccer.
They said that since Frisbee has caught fire, it's really become harder to rent a venue, and although the prices haven't changed, it's really not easy to rent a venue at the right time.
But they are not averse to the sport of Frisbee itself.
Where to visit: Shilihe Soccer Stadium and Chaoyang Park
First-come, first-served basis
In addition to the above several stadiums with certain management methods, the reporter visited the Shilihe soccer stadium and Chaoyang Park soccer stadium said that they would not distinguish between renting a venue to play soccer or Frisbee, are in accordance with the principle of first-come-first-served.
A staff member said, before the frisbee did not rise, the venue can basically be rented out, but after the outbreak of the venue to play frisbee is indeed a lot more, but relatively speaking, playing soccer is still more.
Soccer Circle: The problem with soccer is that too few people play it
A professional footballer told Beijing Youth Daily that playing soccer is one of the most popular sports in foreign countries, but in China it has always been the majority of people playing "wild ball", the main reason is that they can't find a fixed organization.
It's natural to scramble this time of year when faced with an organized and popularly attended Frisbee board.
Soccer insiders have reacted relatively calmly to the soccer vs. frisbee field battle.
As early as June, the current Shandong Luneng players, former international goalkeeper Wang Dalei had interacted with fans online to express their own views: who pays who use, as for what to use, is the renting party's own decision, "no one kicked the soccer field, people spend money to rent a venue, want to play what to play what."
There are also soccer insiders said that they both play soccer, also play Frisbee, have to compare the two, leaving aside their own careers, Frisbee is indeed more fun.
"Frisbee has a low starting point, everyone is at a comparable level, and games can be formed by coworkers and friends, men and women alike.
Playing soccer, it's very confrontational and sometimes you even fight over a ball to pass or not to pass."
"Should think about why soccer clubs can not even pay wages, while Frisbee clubs are hot?" He believes that the Frisbee into the soccer field is actually a wake-up call to the soccer people, here in addition to the old problem of insufficient number of mass sports infrastructure in China, it is "China's soccer culture lost to the fashion sports culture".
Frisbee circles: overlap with soccer fields because there's too little space for urban sports
Contributions/Partners Club
"We actually can't rent a venue right now." Frisbee coach Chen Zhifu of the Partners Sports Club said there is no such thing as "Frisbee encroaching on soccer fields" because even in Europe and the United States, where Frisbee originated, Frisbee doesn't have its own exclusive venues.
Chen Zhifu feels that this has to do with the low threshold and easy accessibility of a sport like Frisbee.
Abroad, Frisbee can be played on open grassy areas in parks, but if you want to play professionally, in order to avoid injuries, you need to use flatter green fields, such as soccer fields, rugby fields, baseball fields, and field hockey fields.
But in China's current urban fitness venues, rugby, baseball and field hockey fields are almost non-existent, and the only suitable ones left are soccer fields.
From the general environment, due to the impact of the epidemic some time ago, soccer training institutions have been suspended, some organized soccer folk clubs can not host games, soccer stadiums are empty, soccer players to use the field to play "wild", it is at this time, the rise of Frisbee, so Frisbee and soccer players have produced a number of venues to use the overlap between The overlap between Frisbee and casual soccer players.
Nowadays, the training of soccer training institutions and the matches of soccer clubs have been relaunched, and they all have long-term and stable co-operation with the stadium side and are given priority in the use of the venues, so the room for frisbee and casual soccer players to use the stadiums has been further compressed.
As opposed to soccer casuals, Frisbee is an organized activity, and Frisbee clubs can reach some slightly longer-term cooperation agreements with soccer venues according to their own circumstances, so the situation of soccer casuals not being able to find kicking venues is ultimately formed.
"In fact, the initial stage, Frisbee is also all casual visitors, play more people, the volume up, before operating as a club.
To put it bluntly, it still depends on the base that chooses the sport.
With a sufficient sports population base, it is naturally much easier to choose a venue." Chen Zhifu said.
