Recently, the news of "Beijing Guoan Club selling Frisbees" triggered a heated discussion on the Internet, and once occupied the top 20 of the microblogging hot search list. Comments on this topic on the "Understand Ballon Dee" app also quickly became a hot topic.
On one side is the rapidly growing popularity of Frisbee, while on the other side is the world's top sport, soccer, which is loved by the nation. The "meeting" of these two sports on the field is not a peaceful one, but one that is full of controversy.
The discussion on whether or not Frisbees should be allowed in soccer stadiums actually emerged a few months ago with the popularity of Frisbees, which has become the focus of public discussion.
The differences between the two sports in terms of form, fun circles and social attributes make this "battle for space" even more intriguing.
The Frisbee sold by the Beijing Guoan Club managed to hit the hot seat after a dozen orders were sold in just a few days.
From time to time, videos of fights over fields appear on the Internet. On social media platforms, "soccer" and "Frisbee" are in a heated debate. One side believes that soccer is poorly played, while the other satirizes the Frisbee as a "dating device".
The debate between the two circles went on for months.
Until recently, Beijing Guoan, one of the oldest and best known soccer clubs in the history of the Chinese Super League, brought this "dark war" to a climax.
"Beijing Guoan club selling Frisbee" news from the 17th began to climb in the microblogging hot search list, to the morning of the 18th still stayed in the 17th place.
In the soccer fans gathered "understand football emperor" application platform, about the national security selling frisbee comments also become hot, each related information are about 200 comments.
Some people questioned Guoan Frisbee's price of 88 yuan is in the "consumption" of the brand, while others criticized the big-name soccer clubs in the face of the hot Frisbee but lost their backbone.
Guoan Tmall flagship store customer service said in an interview with the reporter, the product premium is mainly because the frisbee for professional athletic frisbee, net weight 175g, can be used for competition, training, recreation and entertainment, frisbee printed in the middle of the green logo of the national security, made of pp material.
No answer was given as to why the club was launching a Frisbee product.
The Beijing Youth Daily reporter found that the Frisbee product did not sell well a few days after it went online, with only 12 orders sold.
Frisbee enthusiasts jokingly said, "Even the national security have surrendered," and even said, "Without the Frisbee, the soccer field may not have survived long ago."
Soccer fans also pointed the finger at Guoan, claiming that the club is "destroying the game of soccer by consuming fan sentiment."
In the storm of public opinion, a video of "Guoan marketing staff" disliking soccer fans was forwarded in various soccer and frisbee groups. It was confirmed that this person was not an employee of Guoan Club, but only a staff member of the seller.
Nevertheless, the Guoan club, and the entire soccer circle, has been under tremendous public pressure.
The soccer field was "occupied", they complained to 12345
Soccer fans Zhang Lin actually feel the "Frisbee invasion of the soccer field" began at the end of June.
He took his son to Chaoyang Park as usual and saw a dozen people warming up in the futsal field on the east side of the park, and he told his son that it was a soccer game.
But then Zhang Lin realized that there were many women in the warm-up activities, wearing clothing that was not traditionally associated with soccer. He realized that this was what the Internet called "Frisbee sports".
Now, Zhang Lin more and more feel "a wave of Frisbee coming" panic. Last week, his son's training field was divided into three areas, the southernmost side of the two Frisbee Bureau, the center is a soccer bureau, the children in the north side and the secondary field training.
After the end of training, Zhang Lin wanted to accompany his son to play in the secondary field for a while, the results did not kick two feet, the field appeared again two sets of people playing Frisbee.
"This has never happened before, and now there are Frisbee players coming as soon as training is over." Zhang Lin looked around, except for the half-field where there were two teams of about 20 people playing soccer, the rest of the field was full of Frisbees.
After returning home, Zhang Lin talked about this phenomenon with the group of players, many players "complained": now the soccer field is basically occupied by the Frisbee.
"In the past, when we played soccer, we all pulled together in a group, and when we had enough people, we went looking for a field. Back then it wasn't hard to find a venue, it was hard to get people together. Now it's a case of having all the people and the venues are rented out."
Zhang Lin heard that a ball player even called 12345 to complain because of a fight over the use of a soccer field with people who play Frisbee.
In their opinion, a soccer field should be used for playing soccer and not Frisbee, just as a basketball court is not for square dancing.
Frisbee increases bookings, some stadiums take care of soccer
Is the Frisbee encroaching on the soccer field?
Beijing Youth Daily reporter visited a number of soccer venues in Beijing, and learned that the situation is: due to the addition of Frisbee, the venue booking is basically full, but the organized soccer training, matches have not been affected, and only the undertaking of casual visitors is somewhat difficult.
At the same time, some venues have put in place management practices to keep up with the demand for soccer.
Where to visit: Sidekick Park Stadium
Partitions between frisbee soccer to avoid conflicts
Side Park Stadium is a place with more Frisbee enthusiasts, Beijing Youth Daily reporter asked the staff as a citizen and learned that there are only empty fields on Mondays and Sundays from 8:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m., and all other times are full.
The staff explained that before the rise of Frisbee, they did have a certain percentage of empty fields, but not many. Nowadays, not only do they have Frisbee bookings, but people who play rugby come in as well, "but overall, it's still more of a soccer percentage."
As to whether frisbee, rugby and soccer will have disputes over the field, the staff member said, "It mainly depends on the management, and there are partitions between the various fields, so basically there will be no conflicts."
Where to visit: Changying Sports Park
Ensure soccer training first, then rent out when there's a vacant field
The staff of the Changying Sports Park also said that the "venue dispute" can be well resolved in the management process. Before setting the site, they will inform each other next to the site is to play other programs, if mutual understanding and acceptance, will be rented.
The staff said, Changying Sports Park in addition to mainly used to undertake soccer youth training, but also undertake the soccer league of foreign friends in Beijing, the rest of the empty field will be rented to the public.
In addition, Changying Sports Park also has an artificial grass rugby field, Frisbee enthusiasts are usually arranged in the rugby field, "if the rugby field arrangement is not open, the soccer field and there is an empty field, only then it will be arranged in the soccer field, so there is actually no contradiction between the Frisbee and soccer."
The staff admitted that after the epidemic, to consult the field of people do a lot, they also put off a lot of reservations. Previously, the field place will also organize some individual soccer enthusiasts to play "wild ball", and now basically very little, "the main 'wild ball' is not good organization, too many pigeonholes."
Visit Location: Olympic Sports Center Soccer Stadium
Price hikes at venues don't stem from too many frisbees
Previously, rumors among soccer players, because the Frisbee Bureau a large number of into the soccer field, resulting in some of the soccer field prices. However, during the visit, the reporter did not find such a phenomenon.
Olympic Sports Center soccer stadium is the only soccer stadium visited by the reporter to increase prices, but the staff said that the price increase is due to the replacement of new turf and facilities, is not the result of the conflict between supply and demand.
According to the staff of the Olympic Sports Center soccer stadium, in addition to providing long-term venues for youth training clubs, soccer and Frisbee field bookings are basically flat, with both sides on a first-come, first-served basis.
Where to visit: Osun North Park soccer field
Cheaper to book for soccer members than frisbee casuals
In contrast, the Olsen North Park soccer stadium regulates Frisbee and soccer bookings with price.
Staff said that booking for soccer fans would be cheaper and there are long-term membership options, while Frisbee Bureau does not have a membership price for now.
The staff member also realized that because of the frisbee boom, field bookings have really boomed, but they still give priority to members, which are soccer fans.
In the North Park of the Ossen, the Beijing Youth Daily reporter also met a few middle school students who came to play soccer. They said that since the Frisbee fire, it has become difficult to rent a field, although the price has not changed, but it is not easy to rent a field at the right time. But they are not averse to the sport of Frisbee itself.
Where to visit: Shilihe Soccer Stadium and Chaoyang Park
First-come, first-served basis
In addition to the above several stadiums with certain management methods, the reporter visited the Shilihe soccer stadium and Chaoyang Park soccer stadium said that they would not distinguish between renting a venue to play soccer or Frisbee, are in accordance with the principle of first-come-first-served.
A staff member said, before the frisbee did not rise, the venue can basically be rented out, but after the outbreak of the venue to play frisbee is indeed a lot more, but relatively speaking, playing soccer is still more.
Soccer Circle: The problem with soccer is that too few people play it
"I don't have a problem with the sport of Frisbee per se, but speaking as a soccer practitioner, it makes me uncomfortable to see a soccer field full of Frisbee players, but what can be done about it? Isn't the problem with Chinese soccer that there are too few soccer players on the soccer field?"
A professional soccer people told the Beijing Youth Daily reporter, in foreign countries to play soccer is one of the most popular sports, but in China has been to play "wild ball" the majority, the main reason is to find a fixed organization. This time in the face of organized and popular participation in the Frisbee Bureau, natural competition.
Soccer insiders have reacted relatively calmly to the soccer vs. frisbee field battle.
As early as June, the current Shandong Luneng players, former international goalkeeper Wang Dalei had interacted with fans online to express their own views: who pays who use, as for what to use, is the renting party's own decision, "no one kicked the soccer field, people spend money to rent a venue, want to play what to play what."
There are also soccer insiders said that they both play soccer, also play Frisbee, have to compare the two, leaving aside their own careers, Frisbee is indeed more fun.
"Frisbee has a low starting point, everyone is at the same level, and you can get a game together with coworkers and friends, male or female. Playing soccer, it's very confrontational, and sometimes you even fight over a ball to pass or not to pass."
"Should think about why soccer clubs can not even pay wages, while Frisbee clubs are hot?" He believes that the Frisbee into the soccer field is actually a wake-up call for soccer people, here in addition to the old problem of insufficient number of mass sports infrastructure in China, but also "China's soccer culture lost to the fashion sports culture."
Frisbee rings: overlap with soccer fields because there's too little space for urban sports
Contributions/Partners Club
"We actually can't rent a venue right now." Frisbee coach Chen Zhifu of the Partners Sports Club said there is no such thing as "Frisbee encroaching on soccer fields" because even in Europe and the United States, where Frisbee originated, Frisbee doesn't have its own exclusive venues.
Chen Zhifu feels that this has to do with the low threshold and easy accessibility of a sport like Frisbee.
Abroad, Frisbee can be played on open grassy areas in parks, but if you want to play professionally, in order to avoid injuries, you need to use flatter green fields, such as soccer fields, rugby fields, baseball fields, and field hockey fields.
But in China's current urban fitness venues, rugby, baseball and field hockey fields are almost non-existent, and the only suitable ones left are soccer fields.
From the general environment, due to the impact of the epidemic some time ago, soccer training institutions have been suspended, some organized soccer folk clubs can not host games, soccer stadiums are empty, soccer players to use the field to play "wild", it is at this time, the rise of Frisbee, so Frisbee and soccer players have produced a number of venues to use the overlap between The overlap between Frisbee and casual soccer players.
Nowadays, the training of soccer training institutions and the matches of soccer clubs have been relaunched, and they all have long-term and stable co-operation with the stadium side and are given priority in the use of the venues, so the room for frisbee and casual soccer players to use the stadiums has been further compressed.
As opposed to soccer casuals, Frisbee is an organized activity, and Frisbee clubs can reach some slightly longer-term cooperation agreements with soccer venues according to their own circumstances, so the situation of soccer casuals not being able to find kicking venues is ultimately formed.
"In fact, in the initial stage, Frisbee is also all casual players, playing more people, the volume up, before operating as a club. To put it bluntly, it still depends on the base of choosing this sport. With a sufficient population base of the sport, the choice of venues is naturally much more convenient." Chen Zhifu said.
